Eligible mustangs

A classifieds roundup

 

Sophie has long, wavy platinum hair, swept dramatically to one side. She's "fairly gentle," and comes from the White Mountain area in Wyoming. "She was somewhat difficult to start," the ad says, but "now does what is asked of her."

Ginger was born in Reno, Nev. She is "very trusting. … You can pick up her feet, groom, catch and saddle her with ease. Will stand tied for hours, and obeys riders' commands. She gets a little anxious around a lot of people, and seems to be a little bored."

Care to entertain? Since the Bureau of Land Management became responsible for wild mustangs in 1971, eligible horses and burros have been swishing their tails in government corrals and pastures, just waiting -- for you. These mares, and many others, were "gathered" from BLM land, where they often run roughshod over fragile habitat and compete with wildlife for forage. Hoping to pick up the sluggish pace of adoptions, the BLM now holds auctions online in addition to in-person sales. It's eBay in the true sense of the word. You can browse a gallery of headshots that beg your affection. Or at least the shelter of your corral.

Bi-curious? Meet Mocha: "This 5-year-old mare is a tri-colored buckskin pinto, a very rare color even in mustang herds, and her bi-colored mane and tail are mostly white. Friendly and approachable, Mocha is 14.2 hands tall and very sturdily built, with the heavy bone structure common to mustangs."

Or Flower, a "deep brown dapple" horse that's seen some tough times, but is ready to be swept off her hooves: "She has an old injury at the coronary band on the right front foot but it doesn't affect her soundness and is considered a blemish."

These days, record numbers of wild horses are penned up in BLM corrals, often for longer times than before and in crowded, disease-breeding conditions. This infuriates their advocates, many of whom see the very notion of capturing mustangs as cruel. Wild horse lovers tend to prefer contraception to roundups, but delivering the pill -- a dose of Porcine Zona Pellucida -- across the range isn't easy, and it's only good for two years. So the BLM has decided to concentrate on gathering females, to skew the sex ratio. The herds tend to foal like crazy, partly because capturing dominant stallions lets younger rivals have their way.

Humboldt, however, has left the dating scene behind. This 5-year-old gelding is shaggy, with an angular but sensitive visage. Gathered from the Jackson Mountains in Nevada more than two years ago, "he is very alert and attentive and likes to know what is going on around him. His training includes standing tied, being caught and haltered in a small pen … loading into a 4-horse trailer, and lungeing." Whoa, boy.

And let's not forget handsome salt-and-pepper males like Doc, "a Mustang Makeover Horse" -- trained for arena competition -- described as "very mellow."

Bids for most horses and burros open at a mere $125 and can increase by leaps of $5 to $250 at the click of a mouse. Beforehand, you'll have to submit an online application affirming you are 18, humane, and have the space to support a symbol of the American West: "Please download and complete the Corral Sketch/Map PDF file below," the Web site directs. "Draw only the corral and shelter where the horse will be put ...".

The corral must be at least 400 square feet. Your bedroom, it should be noted, is not roomy enough.

Nick Neeley's article, "Eligible Mustangs"
Janet Ferguson
Janet Ferguson
Apr 13, 2010 04:05 PM
This is a cutsey little article and a clever spin on mustangs eligible for adoption from the BLM. It is hastily written, and doesn't really find its voice before it grinds to a pitiful stop. We need more responsible reporting than a half-hearted vanity piece on this important subject.
Wild horses and burros
Lyn McCormick
Lyn McCormick
Apr 13, 2010 04:05 PM
Thank you HCN for advertising these wonderful horses in need of good homes; however, there is an even greater need to educate and inform the public as to the real situation with the on-the-range management of the wild horses and burros. The conflict for forage is not with "other" wildlife but with the large numbers of livestock grazing on the Public Lands, which now outnumber wild horses 200-1. It would be in the best interests of the wild horses and your horse loving readers to do a follow up article which accurately addresses the range management issues facing America's last wild horses.
Mustang Capture
Stacey Miller
Stacey Miller
Apr 13, 2010 05:06 PM
Please forgive if this has been assigned BUT it would be wonderful if you would do a REAL STORY REGARDING THE CRUEL CAPTURE OF THE MUSTANGS AND HELP US PUT THIS TO A STOP. The scientific evidence goes completely against what the BLM is doing. Mustangs are wild animals and endearing people who have no training to adopt them is dangerous to the horses & to the humans. If someone wants a pet let them get dogs & cats.
"Eligible Mustangs"
Elyse Gardner
Elyse Gardner
Apr 13, 2010 05:10 PM
We are in danger of losing our wild mustangs. Thank you for trying to cover the mustang story, Nick, but you don't have the full picture and have mischaracterized the role of the native wild horse -- not feral, as some like to say, but science shows otherwise. These nomadic wild horses are often "zeroed out" off their legally mandated ranges in favor of grazing for cows and sheep. However, they re-seed the ecosystems they inhabit, unlike the ruminant livestock who pillage and trample it. Your cavelier treatment of their plight is unwarranted and unfair to these peaceful contributors to our wild west. Read "Welfare Ranching," a tremendous book by George Wuerthner and Mollie Matteson to get the true picture of who is really damaging our land and you'll find the ranchers with their imported cows (not a native species) and sheep, bless their destructive hearts, decimating and polluting riparian areas. There are at least 200 cows for every one wild horse on our federal lands. Example: Cows linger; horses drink and move on. Please get the full story. It's this kind of rumor and reporting that is causing the decimation of our wild horses. Let's get the truth out there and turn things around for these glorious animals that so enrich, enliven, and animate our land. They are a national treasure people from other countries covet and come to witness.
Eligible mustangs
Larry Audsley
Larry Audsley
Apr 13, 2010 07:22 PM
Horses are livestock and don't belong roaming on public lands. HCN has addressed this subject responsibly in the past. Here it is again.

http://www.hcn.org/issues/336/16736
wild horses
Maureen
Maureen
Apr 14, 2010 05:38 AM
Same old tired untrue 'spin' yes livestock has no business raoming public lands but that's real livestock, cattle. Horses arenot and never have been livestock. To say that private cattle has a right to be on public land doing range damage instead of a native wildlife species,the wild horses and burros, who enrich habitat,has been seen for waht it really is, a land grab by private ranching interets. This article, while it tired to be cutesy and played fast and loose with the 'facts' it made me so sad. These horses should be left on the range. If there should be a habitat issue than private cattle or sheep need to be removed according to the WH&B Act of 1971. When you read about these innocent animals caught up in the greed and corruption of private interests and a gov agency run amok with self dealing, no solid American ciitizen would go along with it much less allow millions upon millions of tax dollars to pay for it just so the good ole boys can take care of their good ole boy buddies. Not with our horses and not with our money.
horses are wildlife?
Doc
Doc
Apr 14, 2010 06:40 AM
Admittedly there were wild horses that could've been considered a wildlife species on the planet. But the ones native to North America were much smaller and went extinct about the same time as the mammoth. The horses running wild on the western landscape today are indeed feral (as are the burros) just as much as the stray cats and dogs that run wild in much of the urban landscape. They are legacies of early Spanish conquistadors and miners and it would be a difficult stretch to consider them a 'wildlife' species. If you really consider them a wildlife species, lets open up a hunting season on them like we do for the elk and deer. The sad truth is that they are overpopulated in many areas because there are no serious predators on the adult horses and they can cause serious ecological damage to these areas just as if someone ran too many deer, elk or cows (admittedly they each focus on slightly different browse but you get the idea).

Please don't overly romanticize the feral horse because it hinders real progress in trying to manage a problem population.
Native Horses
Suzanne
Suzanne
Apr 14, 2010 06:53 PM
Whether the last American horses were bigger or smaller doesn't matter at all because they are the SAME SPECIES. In hard times - which they must have been - animals tend to get smaller. In good times, they trend larger - it means exactly nothing. Those horses were Equus caballus - as are these horses. SAME SPECIES. The Great Dane is larger than the Chihuahua, but they are still the SAME SPECIES. Also notice how much smaller the wild horses than the usual domestic horse. Still, same species.

Besides, the genetic studies the the BLM itself paid for - and then ignored - proved that many of these horses, especially the ones in more remote areas, carry old Spanish bloodlines that are found nowhere else.

According to the GAO, the BLM is SUPPOSED to be managing these herds to preserve these rare bloodlines. Which the BLM has NOT done. In fact, they seem to have done their best to see to it that the lines become extinct. The Pryor Mountain horses are a perfect example of this even though this herd was mentioned specifically by the GAO as a herd that especially needed to have its bloodlines preserved. But the BLM went in there last fall and totally gutted this herd. They are now below the level of genetic viability, and these irreplaceable bloodlines may be lost to us.

Aside from the fiction that the horses are so overpopulated that they are starving and destroying the range, what about the millions and millions of cattle? The GAO - among many others - has repeatedly stated that it is the CATTLE that are destroying the range, and removing the horses caused very little improvement because they weren't responsible for the damage in the first place.

But, hey, the American taxpayer is, I am sure, totally happy to subsidize Rolex Ranchers like Ted Turner or international corporations like Hewlett-Packard while our native horses are being wiped out and the very non-native cattle destroy what's left of the West.
"wild" horses
Alan
Alan
Aug 23, 2010 02:34 PM
Hate to break the news to you but the earliest horses in the New World were of the genus Hyracotherium, not even the same genus. In the late Pleistocene, all horses of North and South America died out - THEY WENT EXTINCT. There were no equids in the Americas! All horses in North America are ancestors of horses re-introduced to North America. They are not native. Native horses disappeared from the Americas between 10,000 and 50,000 years ago. The only scientifically recognized "wild" horse is Equus ferus przewalskii (Prsewalski's horse) which lives on the steppes of Mongolia. Prezewalski's horse can breed with Equus caballus (domestic horse) but produces sterile offspring. The feral horses in the West are not wildlife. No state wildlife agency would claim them!
Livestock?
Suzanne
Suzanne
Apr 14, 2010 06:30 PM
Aren't CATTLE livestock? Since they outnumber the horses by at least 200-1, I believe I'd leave the "livestock shouldn't be on the range" argument out of it.

There is absolutely NO doubt the the genus Equus originated in North America and thrived here for millions of years. They did almost completely die out some 5,700 years ago, but that is a blink of the eye in geological time and the range hasn't changed significantly since much longer ago than when the last of the horses were on it. New DNA studies prove that the last American horses were E. caballus - the exact same species as the Spaniards returned to their homeland in the 1500s. These horses are E. caballus, as are our domestic horses. E. caballus originated here and NOWHERE else. I can't see how any reasonable - or objective - person can deny that E. caballus is a native species.

Cattle, on the other hand, originated in Eurasia, and were NEVER in North America until the white man brought them here.

Now really. If there can be millions of cattle here, why can't there be a few thousand horses? I believe their claim is quite a bit more valid.
Possibly a refutation of the information above.
Student
Student
Apr 15, 2010 10:55 PM
From Wikipedia:

"Equus scotti (translated from Latin as Scott's horse,[1] named after vertebrate paleontologist William Berryman Scott) is an extinct species of Equus, the genus that includes the horse. E. scotti was native to North America[2] and likely evolved from earlier, more zebra-like North American equids early in the Pleistocene Epoch.[3] The species may have crossed from North America to Eurasia over the Bering land bridge during the Pleistocene. The species died out at the end of the last ice age in the large-scale Pleistocene extinction of megafauna.
It was among the last of the native horse species in the Americas[citation needed] until the reintroduction of the horse approximately 10,000 years later, when conquistadors brought modern horses to North and South America circa 1500 AD, some of which later escaped to the wild and became ancestors of the many feral horses living today in the Americas."

Just sayin'.
Soils and Plants
Mason
Mason
Apr 17, 2010 07:57 PM
It is incorect to say that the Range has not changed in the 8000 (8000 is the most commonly accepted date for extiction from my anaylsis of peer reviewed papers)since horses became extinct in N. America. This is especially true in Nevada were most of the horses live. Pack rat middens and preserved pollen samples (preserved in lake sediments) indicate that the makeup of plants was much different than it was today. The Sagebrush/bunchgrass complex that exists now probably didn't evolve until 3000-4000 years ago-long after the horses were gone. The soil also changed as weather patterns and rainfall shifted from summer heavy to winter heavy. Now, large hoofed animals damage the crust of the soil which in turn destroys the microbial base that is responsible for such important things as nitrogen fixation (crytobiotic soils). The fact that these soils are the predominate soils of healthy Great Basin ecosystems indicates that the soil and plant communities evolved IN THE ABSCENCE of large, hoofed herbivores. The incisors of 'wild' horses and pawing behavior also tends to damage the apical meristem of bunchgrasses which kills them.

The reality is horses are livestock. There may be some validity in preserving the few (5 or 6 depending on how you count them) historically significant herds but they ought to be managed like livestock-which is what they are. All of the 'science' claiming horses are reintroduced native wildlife is heavily biased and the religious conviction in its tone is quite obvious.
I'd also add to Mason's comments that...
Doc
Doc
Apr 17, 2010 08:38 PM
not only has the vegetation changed but the entire ecosystem at the various trophic levels is different as well. The horses that were here evolved in competition with other large grazers (mammoths, mastodons and bison) as well as with some of the largest predators ever to walk the planet (short-faced bears, sabre-toothed cats, and dire wolves) that no longer exist. To imply that introducing domesticated horses is essentially restoring an ecosystem, as some wild horse advocates suggest, is short-sighted at best and grossly misleading on the face of it.
no danger
niko
niko
Apr 15, 2010 09:01 AM
No, we are not in danger of losing our wild horses. That would be a gross violation of the WH&BA. There still is a judicial branch of the US government that upholds the laws of this nation. They are doing exactly that. Horses reproduce at 20% a year. They thrive in their Herd Management Areas, of which there are still many on public lands.
Eligible Mustangs
Isla
Isla
Apr 13, 2010 09:11 PM
This patently offensive and egregiously frothy article is unworthy of your publication. It belongs in someone's silly teenage newsletter.

This issue is complex, both emotionally and financially, for a lot of folks worldwide and deserves far more credible writing.

It must be said, yet again, that adopting a mustang is NOT a simple decision, not for beginners, and they are not pets. As a horse professional I can say Mustangs can be fine mounts, but they can also be a mountain of trouble in the wrong hands. The BLM has strict adoption requirements for a calendar year concerning the specifics of housing an adopted Mustang.

This article makes it sound like some cheesy dating service with no repercussions for a bad blind date... except for these horses it is a life and death matter and they are nothing but pawns in political games.

We deserve, and you are certainly capable of, more constructive and thoughtful offerings than this tripe.
capitalism
Liz
Liz
Apr 14, 2010 10:07 AM
Even if Mustangs aren't "wildlife" (and is this really because we somehow draw the line at pre-Conquistador? or because some of the same species are tame?) they were still "wild" creatures who certainly had a better life running free than penned up in a coral without enough people to care for them. Go ahead open hunting season on them if they really are over-populated, as long as Americans get over the faux pas of eating horse. Yes, there is sarcasm in what I just wrote. I am vegetarian and think that wild horses should be given priority, or at least as much space and consideration as the cattle we so easily raise for meat. I guess it all comes down to what they can sell - dead or alive.
Nick Neely Mustang article
Amy Hadden Marsh
Amy Hadden Marsh
Apr 14, 2010 10:22 AM
I'm curious. What is your source for the claim that BLM "has decided to concentrate on gathering females to skew the sex ratio"? Is this nationwide or on certain herd management areas? Which planning documents indicate this directive?

This is a very complicated issue for a variety of reasons and accurate sourcing is imperative. Thank you.

Eligible Mustangs
Rick Clayton
Rick Clayton
Apr 14, 2010 12:11 PM
"Since the Bureau of Land Management became responsible for wild mustangs in 1971"-- There's the major problem. What does BLM "manage" land for? Mining and grazing. Certainly not for wildlife. Yes, these are feral animals, just like the feral European wild boar that exists in all 50 states. How are feral hogs managed?

"These mares ... often run roughshod over fragile habitat and compete with wildlife for forage"-- It's not an outright lie, but this statement really tries hard to be one. Horses compete with cattle. End of story.

Someone mentioned the lack of predators, but didn't add the cause. Animal Damage Control (formerly a USFwildlifeS agency, now in USDagriculture [huh?]) took care of the pumas, wolves, coyotes, and bobcats, thank you very much.

I hadn't heard that Rupert Murdoch took over HCN. But the way this article offers cover for powerful private interests, it certainly is straight out of the corporate media handbook.
Nick Neeley's Wild Mustangs
Elizabeth Kuhn
Elizabeth Kuhn
Apr 14, 2010 05:00 PM
It seems interesting and timely that the High Country News has decided to run an article on the controversy of the plight of the wild mustangs, especially given the last two roundups in northern Nevada on the Calico range, that made the news. That was not about ranching, or destroying the land, but solely about mining interest, one of the largest lobbying groups in America as we recently found out with the recent tragedy in West Virginia. There are plans to mine the area in the Calico area of gold and silver and who knows what else.
There are now just as many, if not more wild mustangs in captivity as there are running wild. The BLM says they are starving, but when you watch films of the gathers you see healthy horses. The gathers cause pregnant mares to abort their foals, and injuries to the small foals that many of them have to be put down (euthanized) from their injuries. If you want to be an advocate go online to madeline pickens website.
Secretary Salazar's idea is to round up as many of these magnificent animals and ship them east to an encampment far from their native grazing lands. Madeline Pickens wanted to buy a million acres in Nevada, the BLM shot her down each and every time. The ranchers were very open to the idea saying it would be great & would bring tourism to the area, but the BLM said the mustangs were over grazing the area so badly, it was not feasible. The three major news networks have done exposes on the BLM regarding this issue, the best one was from ABC with Diane Sawyer. My husband & I now have 5 mustangs, 4 we got directly from the BLM, 3 are saddle broke from the Utah state prison system. The mustangs are just wonderful animals, I cannot say enough about them. I grew up around horses, we have 2 arabs, and one quarter horse, the other mustang is a Kiger, but domestically raised as she has no freeze brand. Taking in a wild mustang is not to be taken lightly, but if you have the time, it is definitely worthwhile. They become so affectionate and trusting when treated well. The BLM just needs to stop telling half & mistruths, but you cannot trust the government, bottom line. I hope you have time to read this, thank you.
Eligible mustangs
Lois
Lois
Apr 14, 2010 05:10 PM
The writer of this one sided article forgot to mention that if the mustangs are passed up for adoption more than three times they are off to a long cruel ride to the slaughter house in Canada or Mexico....and the BLM is "gathering" way more than could ever possibly be adopted.
Horse Huggers
C.L. Quigley
C.L. Quigley
Apr 14, 2010 08:56 PM
You horse huggers need to get off your soap box. Step out of your fantasy world...little girls...ponies...some people never grow out of the "My Little Pony" stage it seems. Whoever above stated that Hyracotherium and the western North American feral mustangs are the same species needs to go pick up a basic earth history book! The Przewalski's Horse and the Tarpan are the only true "wild" horses of of the earth, and neither of them are native to North America. Labeling mustangs as "wild horses" is a slangy, vernacular, country-bumpkin term for people who haven't bothered to take a basic geologic history course, or worse, use Google. Horse huggers will never stop though, because there were never any "My Little Sage Grouse," "My Little Antelope," or "My Little Mule Deer" play sets while growing up. Anyone who's spent a pinch of time in the high desert wilderness areas of the Great Basin - off trail - has seen that these feral farm animals are ruining habitat and natural food sources for native North American wildlife. No, I am not a hunter, or a rancher, nor have a ever pointed a rifle at an animal. I only care about the well being of the natural, native wildlife of the west, not the escaped farm animals from Spain.
Extremes
niko
niko
Apr 15, 2010 08:59 AM
Some radical wild horse advocates just keep repeating the same lies over and over, hoping people start to take their lies as truth. They’re worse than Fox News. Words like “you cannot trust the government, bottom line” comes from our Tea Patriot friends.

The biggest lie is that horses are native to North America. EPA defines introduced species as “species that have become able to survive and reproduce outside the habitats where they evolved or spread naturally". The early American horse had been game for the earliest humans on the continent. It went extinct about 7,000 BC, just after the end of the last glacial period. Thus it did not evolve here or spread naturally but was spread by Spaniards and other Europeans who brought horses to the Americas in the sixteenth century. If WH advocates claim horses are native because an animal they descended from ran here thousands of years ago, then elephants are native too. But you know what? It really doesn’t matter. We humans manage native wildlife and we manage introduced wildlife. But WH advocates want no management of wild horses at all. This is an extreme position that’s unreasonable.

The second lie is that wild horses do not destroy native ranges. In fact, one advocate has even contended that they “enrich habitat.” LOL! Folks, this isn’t that hard. A non-native species in large numbers is not enriching habitat. Then we have a poster who contends that horses do not compete with native wildlife. Whoa. Really? Gee, I didn’t know the forage out there was labeled and horses left the forage assigned to the wildlife alone. These are silly assertions from people who are not thinking logically. Their irrational love for horses and hatred for anyone who doesn’t agree with this position clouds their thinking process. I agree with what many say about ranching and too much livestock on public land. But this in no way legitimizes their agenda to have thousands of wild horses running free destroying the range. This is like when a 5-year old child tells his parents it’s okay to do something bad because their friends do it. If we don’t let small children get away with this, we shouldn’t let WH advocates get away with it either.

The third lie is that BLM is lying about science and breaking the law. However, WH advocates sue BLM nearly every time they gather wild horses and they almost always lose. Because the agency knows they’re going to get sued every single time they pick up a WH, they are very diligent in gathering range data in Herd Management Areas. WH advocates tried to stop the massive round up in Nevada several months ago. The judge, again, ruled in favor of BLM and the gather went on. If BLM data are cooked, why are they winning gather litigation? Folks, dozens of judges are not part of this conspiracy. You are losing all these gather court cases because you’re lying about who has the accurate science.

Wild horses are an extremely emotional issue. What we need are fewer extremes. We need logical solutions, not radical ones. We shouldn’t be considering euthanizing horses. That’s extreme. But radical solutions are the only ones acceptable to most WH advocates. In every single issue we see on public lands, there has to be some compromise. But WH advocates don’t know the meaning of the word compromise.

Neely writes “Wild horse lovers tend to prefer contraception to roundups,” which is true. However, the fact is that many WH lovers also detest contraception, saying it’s cruel (I would be happy to post several links to WH groups contending this). So as far as population control options available, round ups are out, and so is contraception. What does that leave? NOTHING. No management of wild horses. Let them breed at 20% recruitment rates forever. Let thousands, then hundreds of thousands, then millions of horses destroy our native ranges.

Make no mistake folks. This is exactly what most WH advocates want. There are moderate WH advocates, who do a lot more good for horses than these radical ones: http://204.232.160.250/[…]/local_group_blm_work_together. Too bad these sensible voices are drowned out by the radical. There is room for WHs on our public lands. They have a place there. But these lies and extreme positions are not helpful in managing our ranges effectively.
Tone and content of comments
Jodi Peterson
Jodi Peterson
Apr 15, 2010 12:00 PM
Thanks to all who have commented here; the free exchange of ideas and opinions is the reason HCN allows comments, and we appreciate everyone's participation. However, to foster a civil dialogue, we ask that commenters refrain from posting personal attacks, profanity, and obscenity. Some of these comments are downright vitriolic and directly insulting to the writer of the article or to other commenters, and that's not acceptable. We can all express our opinions and thoughts without violating basic standards of decency and respect. HCN will remove comments that cross that line.
you just got through saying wild horses don't destroy, but increase the range
marty weiss
marty weiss
Apr 15, 2010 06:19 PM
Let the hundred thousand wild horses run.
And let the buffalo roam, my dear.
If we want to continue living here, the place has to work-- be livable.
Take out the apex species and the place goes to hell. But take out the gophers, the burrowers, the prairie dogs and then place will turn to hardpan.
If this planet, our home is to be livable, it is not to creatures who live by money the criterion is set.
Cattle have been known for years to be destroying the biosphere.
Not so for horses and buffalo. So yeah the WH is right.
We are not alone and that's what makes a biosphere. The other life-forms are like family. They are, of course, family. Mitakuye Oyasin.
Not to be dispensed with with a 30.06 from a helicopter,
or rounded up for auction/extermination.
They are our life-support.
You don't seem to get that.
There's a whole list of species at risk.
marty weiss
marty weiss
Apr 15, 2010 06:34 PM
I just listed wild horses and buffalo,
but there are so many species that need to prosper
if we are to be a viable species.
The coral is in many ways the foundation of much of our food.
The whales have brains three times the size of ours.
Science has not yet learned to converse with them.
But we can speak with all things if we include them in our family.
Wolves, and Mexican Wolves and Leopards in Arizona.
Mountain Lions.
Monarch Butterflies.
If I'm not breakin' yer heart yet,
Yer psychotic.
our life support's hangin' by a thread.
marty weiss
marty weiss
Apr 15, 2010 06:58 PM
Grizzly Bears
Sharks
Gorillas
Badger
Wolf
Songbirds
Amphibians
Bees
Cod
Salmon--
Recently a gold mine was established
extinguishing one of the last salmon runs
with mine tailings,and pollution.
Life on this planet is worth more than gold.
You have even fell prey to some of the WH advocate screaming
Mason
Mason
Apr 17, 2010 08:17 PM
"The early American horse had been game for the earliest humans on the continent. It went extinct about 7,000 BC, just after the end of the last glacial period."
This has been WAY overblown by WH advocates as well. Greyson et. Al did a meta-anaylsis of all documented early holocene kill sites in North America and none of them cointained horse remains. The authors had no interest in the wild horse issue but were just seeing what animals could be found in kill sites in N. America and they found no horses. No butchered and chared horse bones despite the general frequency of early halocene horse bones. so there is no evidence that Paeloindians killed wild horses in large numbers.
Feral Horses and Burros
Rich Beaudry
Rich Beaudry
Apr 16, 2010 07:57 AM
BLM is doing a hard, necessary job in trying to control feral horses and burros on public lands. These are not wildlife or native animals, they are introduced species. Because they have no natural predators, and have a long reproductive life they can quickly over populate a range and destroy the habitat of native species.

Not long after the Wild Horse and Burro Act was passed by Congress, I lead a tour of officials, biologist and media to look at feral burro damage in the Lake Havasu City, Arizona area. In the tour was “Wild Horse” Anne, the person who started the whole issue. When she saw whole branches pulled from Palo Verde trees by burros, which she tried to excuse it as termite damage – but even the most uneducated person could see from the tracks and scats that the damage was done by burros, leaving the trees high lined with damage.

To this day proponents wanting strict protection continue to spread their propaganda with little regard to the biological facts. HCN thanks for help in explaining the problem, and thanks to BLM for doing a necessary job with one arm tied behind your back
Wild Horses
Just Me
Just Me
Aug 22, 2010 08:14 AM
I love horses. I dont care if they are our history or just feral vermin. They are beautiful animals and I want to see them remain free. We must face the facts that they will overpopulate, just like humans. The solution is not as simple as simply kicking the cows off federal land. Slamming the BLM and crying about cows does not help the horses. Look how many pets are euthanized every year. Overpopulation is a problem, we need to admit it and find a way to deal with it.